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Tanis
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: Serapias lingua |
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I know there is a topic on Serapias from last year (and I have read that and anything else I can find ) as I finaly got my long awaited tubers today.
I have already planted them in a pot and left them in a shady spot for the night.
Some of the tubers are sprouting already so I have some hopes of a bit of a show this year.
Do they really increase that quickly? And has anyone tried free planting? (can they be naturalised?)
If they do multiply that quickly I might try some in my sheltered loggery in a couple of years and see what happens.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't rely on them outdoors, even in Essex: they are a properly Mediterranean plant, wanting sunny and frost-free winters for best growth. I don't know their frost-tolerance as such: for a large colony naturalised somewhere good drainage will help - a sink garden would be a place to start perhaps.....
They do multiply quickly - the shooting tubers probably won't show above soil for another c.6-8 weeks yet, and they won't be flowering until winter normally. So don't be in too much of a hurry to water them much yet. _________________ Rob.
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Tanis
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Rob,
From what I have read they will go down to 15f, (thats about -9c) )but I don't want to try that yet, not untill I have a couple extra to 'spare' I only got 14
The mix I used was very slightly damp, but I havn't given them any extra, it was originally recomended as full shade, but I will move them up to a semi-shaded spot if the weather holds, if not I will put them in my cold frame for the evening sun (south facing gardens can be a pain) 
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:36 am Post subject: |
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I grew my S.lingua outside last season with only the protection of a sheet of polythene on the coldest nights. They were potted and plunged in a sand box. I'm in South London so it's a real heat island affected winter but the plants still had to cope with -4c at least, and on a couple of nights the leaves were completely frozen.~It was horrible to see but they thawed went on to flower beautifully and incresed from 36 tubers to just under 90! (BTW if anyone is interested in growing these you shoul pm me) Oh, one other thing the plants were in as close to full sun as I could give them all the way through the growing season..In the wild they can be found in full sun to mid shade. As with a lot of terrestrials found in full sun they may benefit from a bit of very light shade as the sun gets stronger in the spring , as the leaves would naturally recieve a little from neighbouring vegetation at that time.
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Tanis
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I am now so looking forward to seeing these plants flower
I did have to put them under cover for today as we are getting a lot of rain in my area, I will bring them out into the sun (when and if we get it back )
I don't think I'm going to risk loosing them to frost this year, so I'll play it safe for now and use the cold frame when needed
Thanks for the tips they have been a big help
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Tanis I tried my first serapias lingua last year. I had about 9 tubers and planted them in two pots of John Innes with added grit for better drainage.
They were left in the unheated part of the greenhouse over winter and started to show good strong growth above ground in the Spring. I moved them into a cold frame when frosts were over and they died
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| cricketerry wrote: | Tanis I tried my first serapias lingua last year. I had about 9 tubers and planted them in two pots of John Innes with added grit for better drainage.
They were left in the unheated part of the greenhouse over winter and started to show good strong growth above ground in the Spring. I moved them into a cold frame when frosts were over and they died
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Oh no !! Don't tell me things like that I will just have to see how they go, mind you if you want to try them again, Craig has some to spare
I did a mix of top soil, with baby orchid mix with extra pearlite with a gravel base for good drainage (as recomended in one of my books)
I hadn't realised how small the tubers were, I was rather worried about dropping them, and not being able to find them again  |
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Tanis wrote: |
From what I have read they will go down to 15f, (thats about -9c) )but I don't want to try that yet, not untill I have a couple extra to 'spare' I only got 14
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| Earthsong wrote: | | Tanis wrote: |
not untill I have a couple extra to 'spare' I only got 14
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It was a 'job lot' of 10 and the guy sent a couple of extra with the deal 'just in case of failure' but if they do increase at the rate people say then I'm going to be having 'job lots' in a couple of years
Only about half of the tubers were sprouting when I planted them, so I may only get 7 or 8 plants for this year |
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